Published Aug 3, 2023
Conversation with Rutger Bregman — Human Nature, Power Dynamics, and UBI
Rutger Bregman delves into the optimistic view of human nature as inherently cooperative, challenges traditional economic models with Universal Basic Income, and dissects the corruptive nature of power while suggesting societal safeguards.

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Corruption
explores the idea that power can corrupt individuals, drawing on psychological and neurological evidence. He notes that while many powerful people are empathetic, power often reduces their connection to others, making it a "dangerous drug." This tendency isn't universal, but it's significant enough to warrant caution 1.
Social Controls
Historically, societies have developed methods to control those in power, recognizing the risks of corruption. highlights how ancient hunter-gatherers used shame and expulsion as tools to manage leaders, while modern democracies employ checks and balances. These strategies reflect a long-standing awareness of the potential dangers posed by unchecked power 1.
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