Published Nov 5, 2020

Cold War II: China Tech vs. US Tech

Join historian Niall Ferguson as he delves into the tech rivalry simmering between China and the US, comparing it to a new Cold War defined by fintech versus semiconductor strengths, and examining China's internal political dynamics against the backdrop of global economic power struggles.
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  • Strategy Shifts

    The strategic shifts in US policy towards China have marked a significant departure from previous administrations. highlights the Trump administration's efforts to counter China's influence, particularly in regions like Xinjiang, Hong Kong, and Taiwan, which have put China on the defensive 1. He acknowledges the strategic change as necessary, despite some tactical missteps, such as the handling of TikTok 1. Ferguson notes, "If we'd left the elites in charge and Chimerica had still been okay, then I think China's rise would have been more or less unstoppable."

    If we'd left the elites in charge and Chimerica had still been okay, then I think China's rise would have been more or less unstoppable.

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    This shift is seen as a pivotal moment in redefining the global balance of power 2.

       

    Economic Tactics

    Economic tactics between the US and China involve complex issues of intellectual property and espionage. and Ferguson discuss how China's approach mirrors historical US practices of acquiring foreign technology to boost economic growth 2. Ferguson points out that China's strategy is more systematic and aims to achieve parity with the US, particularly in areas like artificial intelligence 2. He states, "The Chinese goal...is to achieve parity, or indeed to overtake the United States in terms of power."

    The Chinese goal...is to achieve parity, or indeed to overtake the United States in terms of power.

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    This strategic pursuit is complicated by China's one-party system, which raises concerns about its global ambitions 3.

       

    Tech Cold War

    The tech cold war between the US and China is characterized by a fierce competition in technology and innovation. Ferguson describes this conflict as more focused on technology than previous cold wars, with China leading in fintech and the US maintaining an edge in semiconductors 4. He highlights China's advancements in payment platforms and AI, contrasting them with the US's dominance in chip technology 5. Ferguson remarks, "They are the key component of this cold war because...it's got incredible hunger for processing power."

    They are the key component of this cold war because...it's got incredible hunger for processing power.

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    This technological rivalry underscores the broader geopolitical tensions between the two nations 5.

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