Published Oct 9, 2023

Prof G Markets: Ozempic’s Market Impacts and Surging Bond Yields — with Downtown Josh Brown

Scott Galloway and Josh Brown delve into the impacts of surging bond yields and the economic disruptions caused by Ozempic, discussing investment strategies amidst potential recessions and highlighting corporate bonds as they outperform treasuries in a shifting economic landscape.
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  • Long-Term View

    Josh Brown emphasizes the importance of a long-term investment philosophy, particularly for younger investors. He argues that the focus should be on accumulating shares over time rather than seeking immediate high returns, as this approach benefits from market volatility and lower prices. Brown explains, "You want to buy low, that nothing could be better for your generation, Ed, than a lost decade where stocks are volatile but go nowhere" 1. This mindset shift encourages investors to prioritize career growth and patience over short-term market gains 2.

       

    Rate Effects

    The rising interest rates have created a complex dynamic in the investment landscape, affecting both stocks and bonds. Josh Brown notes that while higher rates typically lead to a preference for credit over equities, the market's resilience has been surprising, with larger companies experiencing less drawdown 3. He also discusses the historical context of interest rates, comparing the current environment to the 1990s, when similar rates did not prevent strong market performance 4. Brown states, "It is not impossible to have rates where they are today and have a stock market perform well" 4.

       

    Bond Insights

    Corporate bonds are currently outperforming treasuries, reflecting a unique market condition where investors are not pricing in economic deterioration. Brown explains that until corporate bond yields significantly exceed those of treasuries, a recession is unlikely 5. He highlights the stability of long-term bond returns, noting that starting yields today are a strong predictor of future returns 6. "If starting yields for long duration bonds of a 30 year treasury are 5% right now, there is a extremely high, almost 100% probability that your returns over the next 30 years will be something on the order of 5% a year," Brown asserts 6.

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